Why I agree with Richard Dawkins.

Since Mr. Dawkins and I have such drasticly different views on life, purpose, and the universe as a whole, I decided agreeing with the man was a blog worthy event. Here’s the scenario. A woman tweeted Dawkins for some hypothetical advice should she ever become pregnant with a baby that has Downs Syndrome. His answer was straightforward and to the point, and completely consistent with his view of life. Check it out:
I admit, my initial response was mostly emotional. What a disgusting thing to say! I have friends that have children that are beautiful and happy and also have Down syndrome. I was furious for the pain that they endure, not because of their child, but because of idiotic comments like the one from the best and brightest the atheist world has to offer.
And while I am a woman and definitely an emotional being, I also love math and logic which is the real reason why I had a definite problem with Richard Dawkins comment. Now, don’t get me wrong. I am under no delusions that for one moment I could win a logic dance-off with RD, but his claim….it’s a mess!!

Let’s look at it:

“It would be immoral to bring it (a child with Down syndrome) into the world if you had a choice.”

He then goes on to explain that it is simply for the welfare of the child that he came to this conclusion. How generous.
So let me see if I can figure this out.
Children with Down Syndrome suffer.
Bringing a child into the world that will suffer is….. immoral.
Well Mr. Dawkins, I actually agree with half of your statement. Children with Down Syndrome suffer.That much is true.
You know how I know that? Because every human on the planet suffers.
However, do you know what other types of children suffer? And arguably more then a kid with DS?
Children of divorce.
You know what other group of children suffer?
Spoiled children of rich parents.
You know what other type of children suffer?
Child actors. They are a mess!! I wonder if there is a prenatal test for the genetic predisposition to go into acting? Then Richard D. could campaign their abortions too. I mean, all this poor, misunderstood, lover of humanity wants to do is end the suffering of children by killing them. Don’t be so hard on the guy!

Yes, children with Down Syndrome suffer, but hey Mr. Science and Reason guy, can you measure suffering? Because, if you can, wow, that’s impressive. What is the formula for that?

Yes there is no way to measure suffering, yet you are sure this one group of people are better off not existing because of their degree of suffering, right? All of them? They suffer so intensely that they would be better off non existent? None of them are ever happy, and sweet and actually the most unconditionally loving people you could ever meet? Yeah, just admit it. That comment was not only absurd, but also very un-sciency. Suffering. You can’t measure it. And yet even if you could, what algorithm, exactly, would you use to determine if ones suffering renders their existence a total mistake? Here’s an idea. Why not ask a grieving parent who lost their child, if they are suffering? Now ask them if they wish their child would never have been born…ya know…because then they could have avoided all that suffering. Here’s the thing.

Suffering does not equal lack of joy or purpose.

But now I am using all kinds of crazy words. Joy. Purpose. Sorry about that.

Ok, I know, it sounds like I don’t agree with Mr. Dawkins, and now you are frustrated with my misleading “bait and switch” title. But wait! I really do agree with him! Here is the quote with which I completely agree.

“What I was saying simply follows logically from the ordinary pro-choice stance that most of us, I presume, espouse.”

In other words, he is merely taking a pro-choice philosophy out to it’s logical conclusion.

Case and point:
If that unborn baby, that fetus, has no value, has no rights, is not a life,  then who cares what the reason is! Just abort it. Wrong gender? Abort it. Wrong timing? Abort it. Going to interfere with your modeling aspirations? Abort it. Going to have a chromosomal abnormality? Of course! No brainer.

As foolish and revolting as his initial comment was, this fact remains.

That comment flows perfectly and naturally from his evolutionary pro-choice stance.

So why, pray tell, is everyone so shocked? Why is there such outrage?

The reason is simple. Hardly anyone takes their pro-choice philosophy out to its logical conclusion.
They say things like, “It’s a baby if you want it to be.” (So scientific) Or  “yes, decapitating babies is gross, but who am I to tell a woman what to do with her body.” Huh?
No matter how obviously illogical these statements are, people  continue with these ridiculous arguments for abortion. because they must cling to their “freedom” whatever the cost. The cost in this case is logical inconsistency.

I have to admit, when I took to the twitterverse and saw all the magnificently dissenting opinions, I felt relief. Ahhhh!! People do have souls! Yay! The internet can still distinguish evil! Hooray! All is not lost! Yet my comfort was fleeting because I knew the truth. I sat there at my computer deflated.  Yes, the majority of tweeters are using their twitter handles to blast Dawkins and his morally depraved views, but does that really match popular opinion? Does it accurately reflect what happens statistically? Or is everyone just mad that he said it out loud? Are they feeling betrayed because he pulled the back the curtain on the truth of the pro-choice philosophy?

The internet is a liar.
Because if people were honest, there would have been no backlash. There would have been no blogs on Huffington Post making a joke out of the whole debacle. If people were honest, 90% of them would have “favorited” his comment. Because statistics tell us that most people agree with him. Yes, over 90% of women that get a down syndrome diagnosis will abort.

Yes Dawkins, you are right when you say that your comment flows perfectly from your world view. And I can imagine how shocked you were when you were attacked by the very people that are normally on your side. You will have to forgive them because they are just not smart enough to take your espoused views to their logical conclusions. And to you, I am truly thankful. I am thankful that you said it out loud. I am thankful that you exposed the pro-choice philosophy for all that it really is. Because of you, I know right now someone out there finally gets it.

So before I conclude, that person is the one with whom I need to talk. With all this media attention, all this talk of aborting babies because they had down syndrome, all the apparent outrage over taking the life of an innocent, there is someone else out there that may understand now what they didn’t realize then. You see, like many others,  we too were told that our first baby girl had all the markers for down syndrome. But we refused an amnio because we didn’t think knowing was worth the risk. Any baby from God deserved a chance at life. That was an easy decision for us. But I know that it is not an easy decision for all. I know that there are women and men, mothers and fathers that agonized over that same decision. I know that some decided to get the amnio, and in turn, due to complications, lost their baby, a baby that actually did not even have DS. I also know that others chose a drastically different route. They chose to end the life of their child. They believed the lie. They really thought they were doing the charitable thing. They were deceived by men “smarter” then them. Doctors. Midwives. Family members. All lied. And just like that a life was gone. This was a baby, with eyelashes and fingernails and smiles and toes. A baby that was brutally murdered. If that was you, if you made that choice, but now, thanks to Dawkins, you have seen the lies exposed for what they really are, you may feel so much pain that you think you will die. But I need you to know one thing. There is forgiveness at the cross. There is healing from the hand of God. You can find freedom and peace. I promise you. Yes, I am glad Dawkins said what he did. I agree that pro-choice philosophy logically leads one to his exact pitiful and nauseating comments. And I am thankful that he drew back the curtain for all to see the ugliness that comes with the pro-choice world view.But more than that I pray that those that were deceived, would find healing. And I pray that those that are in that valley of decision, would choose life.

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2 thoughts on “Why I agree with Richard Dawkins.

  1. I praise The Lord for you and your big brains and bigger heart. Yesterday I spent all day at a Special Olympics event with hundreds of beautiful big hearted Downies. I watched them love each other and my family fearlessly and wholly. I wonder now how many more sweet Olympians would have been there yesterday if their parents could know the truth. If they could see the beauty. The honesty. The innocence. The love. I continue to pray for those who think themselves I'll equipped or have been frightened into thinking they are. Thank you for writing this, Lauren. I am praying for thousands of hearts to be touched by this post.

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  2. What a powerful post- well said. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

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